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The_Dude 
Postmaster General
Joined: 06 Apr 2010
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 2396 |
 Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 03:11 |
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Not impossible, but an alliance formed around a core of vets has a better outlook than an alliance formed with no vets. Gold cost is immaterial.
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Sir Bradly
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Sep 2012
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 228 |
Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 03:45 |
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The Night Crusaders were formed June 2012.
4 months later we were confeds with Harmless and proud members of The Coalition. So I don't believe for a moment that new alliances are pointless.
Alot of older alliances in the game are loaded with inactive players. They are merely an illusion of strength. Never underestimate a small, nimble group of active players.
SB
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2224 |
Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 04:11 |
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And, imo, there are few alliances in this game who have more combat capability than NC...
All within less than one year. Makes you think...
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The_Dude
Postmaster General
Joined: 06 Apr 2010
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 2396 |
Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 04:28 |
Makes me think I don't wanna irritate NC.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 6903 |
Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 04:47 |
I have some experience in starting up new alliances, both independently (in the case of HUGS, which later decided to affiliate with Crows) and as a branch of a confederation (Crows Nest). It is helpful to have 2-3 established players to form a core of an alliance, but from that point on many alliances grow by attracting and growing new players. That has certainly been the case with Crows Nest, as our "newbs" of yesterday are our Rooks of today, serving as primary leaders.
I have also watched a number of alliances such as Roads, Of The Relic, Chosen and Honour get their start over the past couple of years. Some began with a core of new players, others were started by players who chose to leave existing alliances.
I think the bottom line is that just as there are many paths in Illy there are many ways to grow good alliances, and there will always be room for more folks with vision and energy to succeed.
I do think that one thing that distinguishes successful alliances is having a strong sense of what the alliance is -- the alliance's "niche" as it were. This doesn't have to be a specific goal such as the one Roads has, but a common purpose and a shared sense of what the alliance is about seems to distinguish those that have been successful.
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2224 |
Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 05:27 |
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Very, very well said, Rill!
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Mr Damage
Postmaster
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 598 |
Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 06:29 |
 Kumomoto wrote:
I believe that is completely untrue. A player can get up to serious military strength in 3/4 of a year. If you and a group of new players got together and got organized, you could have a hard hitting alliance in less than a year. Also, plenty of vets move around alliances for a wide variety of reasons. Not saying it's easy, but if you are motivated, there is absolutely no reason why new alliances can't grow strong today. This is doubly true for when BL comes out and everyone is starting from scratch in that continent...
Just my two cents.
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Mayflower
Wordsmith
Joined: 29 Nov 2012
Location: Lan Larosh
Status: Offline
Points: 124 |
Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 12:31 |
Just look at Shade :P
Started in Sep last year, and look where we are now,
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Angrim
Postmaster General
Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Location: Laoshin
Status: Offline
Points: 1173 |
Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 17:36 |
Rill wrote:
I do think that one thing that distinguishes successful alliances is having a strong sense of what the alliance is -- the alliance's "niche" as it were. This doesn't have to be a specific goal such as the one Roads has, but a common purpose and a shared sense of what the alliance is about seems to distinguish those that have been successful. |
qft. what would be pointless is to found an alliance for the sake of founding one.
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asr
Wordsmith
Joined: 22 Nov 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 109 |
Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 18:27 |
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I would like to see a union full of players with very diplomatic and politic skills with hidden trait: overly manipulative drama queen/king!!
Edited by asr - 11 Apr 2013 at 18:31
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