Dlords Claiming of space for Home.

belargyle wrote: Second.. it is perfectly within the confines of the game to do so.

That doesn't make it right. Unless you want to start justifying TMM and other bullies since it was "within the confines of the game".
Not everyone follows the forums. How are they to know they can't set up a city near a bunch of other people. Maybe they find it too lonely surrounded by inactives. And how exactly does one peacefully leave with a settled city? You can only move your main city and even that you can only do once. The only way to leave Dlord "territory" once you're in it is by you guys destroying their city and I'd hardly call that peaceful.

Zangi wrote: I don't get how people are jumping to say DLord is acting just like TMM.  They are willing to work with newbies.  Not like TMM who sent a warning then a siege without waiting more then 24 hours for a reply on new less then a month old players.

So as long as they're not destroying new player's cities it's ok then?

Zangi wrote: For any other player, tough luck shenanigans if you move your city into DLord alliance claimed territory and are unwilling dumb enough to not work with the alliance controlling the territory...

This is a completely ignorant statement. I don't know if you have noticed but there is a massive gap between those who play the game and those who go on the forums. If pathfinding comes into the game and borders and walls are made, I'm sure those things will be seen in game. In this case, DLord is setting up an invisible border that no one has any idea where exactly it ends and are expecting people to stay out of it.

If i was Dlords, and if i really wanted to make this claim as peaceful as possible, i would take my time.

i would send a message to all the players i would want to push out of my territory. Ask clearly a reply of this post, to see who is active and who is not.
then ill think about what to do with the inactives, as they are not a problem, and they could be farmed.

for the active ones who replied within 2 weeks, i would keep theire names somewhere and send a message to ask who would be agree to relocate his capitale, and who his agree to let his smallest cities being sieged (if the city has less than 100 pop for exemple).


but i would keep in mind that this claim is a bit too early, and that there will surely be new free moves for everyone in the future, because of Major Releases. And then this claim would be fair for everyone.


but what i could already do would be to send a message when i see someone new setteling in my territory, and siege his new settlement asking him to settle somewhere else.




Edited by Mandarins31 - 26 Jan 2011 at 21:46

Also, the claimed area for Dlords is about, if i'm not mistaken, 1/10 the size of what TMM had claimed (claiming a whole REGION and expecting everyone to stay out, lol).

We claimed one small mountain range as our own. Also, if newbies spawn there, they'll be dwarves. So they can join us if they want, but they always have the option to teleport out, since the new cities of theirs have that function available, so i hardly see any probability for trouble in that regard.

However, people purposfully moving into our terretory with settlers (without our permission) (and without proper diplomatic relations ) won't last long. I mean, why try? There is a WHOLE WORLD of unsettled terrain just like this small mountain range up for the taking, much of it in close proximity to Trade hubs.

Also, if one tries to give the excuse of "i don't read the forums so i didn't know" ther are other ways to see whats going for what, namely the strategic map, or the GC, or just LOOKING around the area looking for an unusual concentration of similar alliance cities.

I personally, if i wanted to settle in other regions, would not think it smart to settle in other areas with lots of big cities in close proximity. I'd choose a vacant lot with nothing near me for at least 4-5 fully zoomed out world maps, cause thats just the way to avoid confrontations with other ppl. But then again you will ALWAYS find other people which will jump into confrontational situations with glee and then complain afterwards about life not going according to what they want.

Mandarins31 wrote: blah, if H? was claiming some territories, im sure that some people would say: "you can siege me whenever you want, that would be an honor Sir", to make us think they have some control on the situation :p anyway, imagine something: the ones who may move from "Dlords's territory" and who will relocate... in Invictus's territory... lol at them (vut if they are new in the game that's understandable). and if now Invictus begins to clain their territory? XD and if the one who are moving from VIC's territory... relocated in Dlords territory? XD and all the topics about more fairness for new player that will open... i could pay real money to see that kind of show :D

Fun Fun Fun!!!!

And Remember Aesir Claims all of Illyriad!

Also i'd like to point out that unlike TMM, we claimed an area with no other people in it to begin with, and if we'd found that shortly after the teleport release there were other cities there, we had a 2nd and 3rd option for locations ready so as not to cause diplomatic and military strife JUST as we were about to begin our own isolated homeland for dwarves.