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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KillerPoodle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2014 at 22:39
Firstly I would like to state that H? made no requests regarding NAAM at all during the negotiations - the idea to disband was theirs and the clause stating it was a surprise to us.

Secondly, NAAM only decided to declare and start attacking after NC had been under heavy attack for some time and almost all of the GA had already entered and started offensive ops, so however noble they claim their intentions to be, in reality they were just one more boot in the crowd of people piling onto NC and they really should not be surprised that we viewed them as exactly that. 

Had NAAM vs NC happened as a 1 on 1 things might have been different but as we know their alliance was public lie from the beginning.

Lastly, I find it funny that Hiei in particular would be confused about H? deciding to defend an ally given DARK's desperate attempts to escalate the Bane/NC conflict even though that war was much closer to a 1 on 1 and not a one-sided massacre attempt.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote realist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 2014 at 02:18
I thought it was odd as well. Never thought the victors would disband an alliance in negotiations. It makes zero sense to be included in the terms.

I think some players in the Grand Alliance are so use to having to disband at the end of wars that they felt it was mandatory. lol

Let me repeat, the only alliances that should disband at the end of the war are the ones that lost the war. Victory is just that, the victors should never have to disband because they won.

But anyway kudos to at least getting Harmless to surrender. Victory in it self.

However, even in defeat harmless still trying to set rules for everyone to follow. And we all know they don't follow them.

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Originally posted by realist realist wrote:



Let me repeat, the only alliances that should disband at the end of the war are the ones that lost the war. Victory is just that, the victors should never have to disband because they won.


Cheers realist! its over... Josiah disbanded NAAM..

 
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Originally posted by realist realist wrote:


And we all know they don't follow them.



We all know how evil Harmless is, but, to date, I have yet to see a single example of Harmless not doing what it would say it would do or follow the rules it set out... MANY hated the rules we set out and those rules were crushed by popular acclaim, but H? not following its own rules?

We have pretty strict rules in H? and to my knowledge they have never been breached. I would welcome an example (if "we all know H? doesn't follow the rules"). Then surely it should be easy to show an example of H? doing anything other than being honorable...

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Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by realist realist wrote:


And we all know they don't follow them.



We all know how evil Harmless is, but, to date, I have yet to see a single example of Harmless not doing what it would say it would do or follow the rules it set out... MANY hated the rules we set out and those rules were crushed by popular acclaim, but H? not following its own rules?

We have pretty strict rules in H? and to my knowledge they have never been breached. I would welcome an example (if "we all know H? doesn't follow the rules"). Then surely it should be easy to show an example of H? doing anything other than being honorable...

K.


Put it this way... If you can supply a single example of this, I will do backflips off the Washington Monument.... This is typical irrational H? hatred.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote realist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 2014 at 09:38
Kumo, stop pretending that I or anyone else that has been in Illyriad from the beginning knows nothing of the history of Harmless in terms of creating rules and breaking them as they see fit.

Maybe you think I am as gullible as the people that thought North Korea won their group stage in the world cup this year...


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That video is a hoax, realist. Learn Google. You are gullible. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abstractdream Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 2014 at 14:56
Really?

With the simple task of providing an example of H? discarding their own rules for their own benefit, given that everyone knows this happened all the time, shouldn't it be a walk in the park? Just give us the names of the H? members, a quick synopsis of the event and there you have it. Certainly less effort than you expended looking up the URL to that video.

Instead, you post a link to a video, which has nothing to do with Illyriad, whatsoever. I'm at a loss to see how anyone thinks that makes any sort of point beyond "I have nothing".
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LoL.. love the link..  Tongue
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