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Uno 
Wordsmith
Joined: 12 Sep 2011
Location: Torino
Status: Offline
Points: 101 |
 Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 12:32 |
 SugarFree wrote:
a duel is a duel. the loser has to obey to the winner. what is wrong whit that? even if it's a trick, once you agree on a fight mano a mano, the result is definitive. |
I sort of disagree. Exactly because it was a duel, which is supposed to be a honorable match in my book, the terms should have been set before the start of it. Setting terms once you are the victor, demanding everything and more, is far from that picture. At this point I think they should try to find a mediation or mediator.
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Eréc of Caer Uisc
King of Dyfneint
Indomiti Alliance
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SugarFree
Forum Warrior
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 350 |
Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 12:59 |
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if one part had more army than the other, but still the weak part agreed on the duel to wash his "honor" clean, and lost, he has no right to come here and cry!
Edited by SugarFree - 04 Sep 2012 at 13:00
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Mona Lisa
Wordsmith
Joined: 22 Feb 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 120 |
Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 18:40 |
JimJams wrote:
So, this started with Tigre settling 5 squares from another city, and ended with Vermino city razed?
One more reason to wipe away anyone settling so near.
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Seems like lessons learned all around from this one . . . "Love thy neighbor.." or if not... make sure he doesn't stay in your "personal" space long enough to develop some form of squatter's rights . . .
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Loud Whispers
Wordsmith
Joined: 31 Jul 2012
Location: Saltmines
Status: Offline
Points: 196 |
Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 21:24 |
SugarFree wrote:
if one part had more army than the other, but still the weak part agreed on the duel to wash his "honor" clean, and lost, he has no right to come here and cry! |
So if you make a mistake and are in need of help you're no longer entitled the right to ask for help?
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Aurordan
Postmaster
Player Council - Ambassador
Joined: 21 Sep 2011
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 982 |
Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 21:51 |
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I'll ask again, because I feel this is important: What, exactly, where the terms agreed to for this duel?
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SugarFree
Forum Warrior
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 350 |
Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 22:11 |
yea, i accept the challenge, lose and suddenly i need help. yea right. if i would find me in a situation that would require the attention of this forum i would had done so long before accepting some kind of challenge. and if i had accepted the challenge, i would had made sure i would win it.
cause if i agree on something i give my word on that.
and would accept defeat and probably exodus the hell out of there.
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Uno
Wordsmith
Joined: 12 Sep 2011
Location: Torino
Status: Offline
Points: 101 |
Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 14:58 |
Aurordan wrote:
I'll ask again, because I feel this is important: What, exactly, where the terms agreed to for this duel? |
From what I gather, none. Which is the only real lesson that should be learned from the story but that everyone is ignoring.
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Eréc of Caer Uisc
King of Dyfneint
Indomiti Alliance
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Hadus
Postmaster
Joined: 28 Jun 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 545 |
Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 15:04 |
Uno wrote:
Aurordan wrote:
I'll ask again, because I feel this is important: What, exactly, where the terms agreed to for this duel? |
From what I gather, none. Which is the only real lesson that should be learned from the story but that everyone is ignoring.
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You forgot:
1. Don't settle within 10 squares of someone without asking.
2. Don't keep your mouth shut if someone settles within 10 squares without asking.
3. Don't agree to a futile 1v1 battle in order to "save" your alliance when the whole point of an alliance is to BE YOUR ALLIES.
4. Don't agree to a settlement of 50 million gold, then change your mind and demand more after you realize you were totally played.
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Uno
Wordsmith
Joined: 12 Sep 2011
Location: Torino
Status: Offline
Points: 101 |
Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 16:29 |
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well I think those are player specific lesson learned. Who knows, maybe other players wouldn't have behaved like Vermino and would have been dear friends with Tigre. About setting terms prior to a duel though I think there is little room for opinions.
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Eréc of Caer Uisc
King of Dyfneint
Indomiti Alliance
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Hadus
Postmaster
Joined: 28 Jun 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 545 |
Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 05:13 |
Uno wrote:
well I think those are player specific lesson learned. Who knows, maybe other players wouldn't have behaved like Vermino and would have been dear friends with Tigre. About setting terms prior to a duel though I think there is little room for opinions. |
Of course, I didn't mean to undermine your point. But I think it's far from the only lesson people should take from this mess.
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