Consone Appointment

Hora wrote: This thread is about reopening talks... If you want us to stop fighting (or say "Yes, you've won!", if you like), give us conditions we can accept, else we try to do a decent show in defending for the next two years... 1 month productivity sounds nice for a start (I saw that somewhere above...ah yes, by KP), and added up for whole Consone would result in a huge load of resources/money/etc... But leave us as an entity... that's the point of the discussion...

No - This thread is about you trying to pretend to the illy community that you're trying to talk in order to garner sympathy and maybe a few more supporters - when actually you're ignoring everything we've said.

Consone as an entity is a failure.   It can't "Protect the welfare of members" and it ended up being the bully it said it was trying to protect against by each alliance making everything into a "Consone Matter" as a way of trying to intimidate people when they didn't respond in the way that alliance wanted. In fact you guys are still trying to make everything into a "Consone matter" even when explicitly told (many times) that it will not work.

So you're desperately trying to hold on to the failed husk of an ideal which had no chance from the beginning due primarily to the personalities of the people pulling the strings at the top of each alliance. In addition you laid on the spin and BS so thickly to your members that you have no way to admit that it failed and move on without a massive loss of face.

So right now your pride is going to make you steam your "unsinkable" Consone ship right onto our iceberg. The sad part is that you're also willing to sacrifice all your members to preserve that pride rather than swallow it and convince them it's in the best interest to surrender. So you're gonna take them down with you - aside from the ones smart enough to leave some possessions behind and jump into a life boat to abandon ship.

FYI - Part of our conditions will be that the alliances in The Coalition never have to hear the words "Consone this" or "Consone that" ever again.

Hora wrote: It would be nice, if that proves right... All I got until now, was the reluctance of talking to Consone as an entity, even when we proposed Hath and Jasche as spokesmen. Reason as I understood it, was that H? wanted Consone to be in pieces... There was pretty little info on that, as Vicx and Roads seemed to be not allowed to talk about terms, but cancelled all diplomatics...

OK, I think there is some misunderstanding here.

I see VIC is back to reinforcing WE cities against RES attacks.  Let me assure you, Hora, this is NOT the path to peace.

Sorry, TD... for the time being, we do have a confed with WE. Put it down into the probably negotiations, if those ever happen =(

Edited by Hora - 06 Feb 2013 at 23:24

hmm..... Can any further discussion on the topic be directed through....hmmmm....let me think.....who would be good for this job.......ahhhh....i have it...Manannan!