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Torn Sky
Forum Warrior
Joined: 28 Apr 2010 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 402 |
Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 23:31 |
GM Stormcrow wrote:
HOW MUCH BONUS DOES A RESOURCE SOVEREIGN STRUCTURE GIVE? This depends on the resource distribution of the underlying terrain on which they are built.
The formula is:
[Sovereignty Structure Level] x [Relevant Resource Distribution] x 0.2 = %age Bonus
So, building a Logging Camp I on a square that has 5 wood underlying it will give:
1 x 5 x 0.2 = +1% bonus...
... to Wood Production in the holding city.
On the same square, a Logging Camp V will give +5% bonus to Wood production in the holding city. Building a Logging Camp IV on a square with 7 wood will give +5.6% bonus.
Again, players will be informed of what bonus the Structure will provide before they build the Structure.
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isnt 5% bonus a little on the light side
Logging Camp V will give
+5% and cost 500 gold/hr at 1 square away
so you would need 10k/hr base income of wood just to break even on gold spent? or am i missing something
GM Stormcrow wrote:
Whilst you can build any Production Structure on any Sovereign Square, different Terrain Types give an additional 1%, 2% or 3% bonus to the per Structure Level figure. So instead of the %age Bonus running from 5% to 25% (for Sovereignty Structure I through V), it can also run from 6% to 40%, 7% to 35%, or 8% to 40% per Sovereignty Structure Level.
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srry about nitpickin
Edit:
2 more question: Can you stack bonuses over several squares, say build four lvl5 cattle ranches to get 100% bonus, or is only 1 building type per city
Can you see other players lvl of sov on a square and what structure they have, or do you have to send diplos to get the info(gonna look through 1 more time think i saw something about this)
Edited by Torn Sky - 08 Jul 2010 at 23:56
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GM Stormcrow
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Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Location: Illyria Status: Offline Points: 3820 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 00:08 |
Torn Sky wrote:
isnt 5% bonus a little on the light side
Logging Camp V will give +5% and cost 500 gold/hr at 1 square away so you would need 10k/hr base income of wood just to break even on gold spent? or am i missing something |
Only if you're saying 1 gold = 1 wood, which I think is difficult to argue at the moment (with our barter economy). Bear in mind that this is part of the move towards a monetised economy.
I certainly agree that early players will probably still be better off putting taxes to zero and not claiming sov for the early resource "level-up" phases, but there will come a point where 500 gold/h is a drop in the ocean, in return for 5% Resource Bonus.
The true test of "what a single resource item is worth" will be after we've introduced the full monetised market.
Torn Sky wrote:
srry about nitpickin
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Not nitpicky at all, Torn Sky! ty for pointing it out, and fixed.
Torn Sky wrote:
Edit: 2 more question: Can you stack bonuses over several squares, say build four lvl5 cattle ranches to get 100% bonus, or is only 1 building type per city
Can you see other players lvl of sov on a square and what structure they have, or do you have to send diplos to get the info(gonna look through 1 more time think i saw something about this)
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Yes you can absolutely have as many of each type of Sovereign Structure per city as you like. The limitation is the number of Sovereign squares you can claim, not what you can build on them.
On your second question, yes you can. Both the level of Sovereignty claimed and the level (and type) of structure will be visible to all.
Best
SC
Edited by GM Stormcrow - 10 Jul 2010 at 00:15
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Aelfric
Greenhorn
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 76 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 01:24 |
Great idea like this is what making me return to this game every single day and promoting it to other people.
Keep up the good work, devs!
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Raritor
Wordsmith
Joined: 20 Apr 2010 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 151 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 02:12 |
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One more question, regarding the NPC armies. I think that they can appear in one "sovereigned" square, so, will they have the defence penalty as any occupying army?
The defence penalty is only against the armies of the city, or to all the cities of the player?
I am still trying to understand all the changes, but, great work indeed. Congratulations
Edited by Raritor - 09 Jul 2010 at 02:26
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xilla
New Poster
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 36 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 02:13 |
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This is such an awesome update. Next time I'm paid, I'm buying some prestige, you work too hard to be giving this for free.
A few questions though, sorry if they're already answered in the post.
So I send my army to occupy a square, do I set it to occupy for 12 hours, or will it automatically stay there if I initiate a claim for sovereignty?
If I send for the army to return, will the claim auto revert to 24 hours, or will it depend on how long I had the army there for. Eg I had the army on the square for 6 hours, will it take 12 more hours to claim or will it take 18 hours?
If during the intial claim, I got to 75% and someone decides to annihilate my army and occupy the square, without an initial sovereign level there, will my claim be nullified, or will it decrease from 75%?
Does it make any difference as to the size of army I send to occupy? Can it be a handful of units and still achieve the same result?
I have a few more, but I'm sure they're answered....somewhere...
Edited by xilla - 09 Jul 2010 at 02:14
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Larry
Wordsmith
Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 114 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 03:40 |
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By the way, you guys have an epic development rate.
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Dogbert
Greenhorn
Joined: 09 May 2010 Status: Offline Points: 72 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 04:23 |
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second that. good functional design also
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WildBill
Greenhorn
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 50 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 06:31 |
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You say you can get a production of up to 250% even more if the proper resources are supplied. I'm taking that to mean you can go into a negative wood, clay, iron and stone production. I'm just wondering what will happen if you run out of resources.
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GM Stormcrow
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Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Location: Illyria Status: Offline Points: 3820 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 09:56 |
Raritor wrote:
One more question, regarding the NPC armies. I think that they can appear in one "sovereigned" square, so, will they have the defence penalty as any occupying army?
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If the defence penalty makes it into the final release of Sovereignty, then yes.
Raritor wrote:
The defence penalty is only against the armies of the city, or to all the cities of the player?
I am still trying to understand all the changes, but, great work indeed. Congratulations |
It's possible that we may apply it only to armies of the city. Still not quite decided on this one :)
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GM Stormcrow
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Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Location: Illyria Status: Offline Points: 3820 |
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 09:58 |
xilla wrote:
This is such an awesome update. Next time I'm paid, I'm buying some prestige, you work too hard to be giving this for free.
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\o/
A few questions though, sorry if they're already answered in the post.
xilla wrote:
So I send my army to occupy a square, do I set it to occupy for 12 hours, or will it automatically stay there if I initiate a claim for sovereignty?
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You have to choose the time you wish it to occupy, as per usual.
xilla wrote:
If I send for the army to return, will the claim auto revert to 24 hours, or will it depend on how long I had the army there for. Eg I had the army on the square for 6 hours, will it take 12 more hours to claim or will it take 18 hours?
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The "twice as fast" bonus applies whilst the army is in occupation and goes when the army leaves. So 12 more hours, not 18.
xilla wrote:
If during the intial claim, I got to 75% and someone decides to annihilate my army and occupy the square, without an initial sovereign level there, will my claim be nullified, or will it decrease from 75%?
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It will decrease from 75%.
xilla wrote:
Does it make any difference as to the size of army I send to occupy? Can it be a handful of units and still achieve the same result?
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Army size makes no difference.
Regards,
SC
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