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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 07:34
Originally posted by Bragdush the Bald Bragdush the Bald wrote:

Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by Bragdush the Bald Bragdush the Bald wrote:

Originally posted by bartimeus bartimeus wrote:

Awesome, There's a topic in the forum with my name in the title... And I didn't start it. pretty cool. 

As to why I got expelled and sieged, I cann't tell you, as it would break the agreement I got with H?.
If I did tell you, then those Mind controlling introverts from H? would siege all my citys instead of just the smallest one.

Bartimeus' quote above is what this thread is all about. Each time Kumomoto enters a post on this thread he evades the point shown in Bartimeus' quote. Instead  he stoops to personal attacks on those who criticise his alliance.
 
The truth is:- that anyone who tells the truth about H? are liable for the same kind of treatment as Bartimeus whereas those who  tell lies on it's behalf or give sycophantic support will receive  a few words of favour to their face and a great deal sly laughter behind their backs.
 
Regieme change is what is needed in H? Perhaps the once worthy senior players of H?  will show those old qualities that they once had and effect it but I don't hold my breath.
 


Moron, try and understand: He is being SARCASTIC. He is deliberately RELOCATING a city.

If we did kick people around for insulting us don't you think you'd be getting punted around the park by now. Stop making baseless accusations its irritating.
Now let me get this straight. You are saying that Bartimeus
 
1. Left H?
2. Agreed to have his city attacked by H? members
3. Then deliberately posted a false claim that he was being punished by mind control freaks etc,
 
...and you have the nerve to  call me irritating.
 
False claim? Which part of sarcasm don't you understand? Is it the sar? Or just the casm?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 07:57
omigod, its me, I am the evil person besieging Bart.

All i can say is;

he asked for it!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 08:34
Originally posted by Bragdush the Bald Bragdush the Bald wrote:

Now let me get this straight. You are saying that Bartimeus
 
1. Left H?
2. Agreed to have his city attacked by H? members
3. Then deliberately posted a false claim that he was being punished by mind control freaks etc,
 
...and you have the nerve to  call me irritating.

It almost feels like you are deliberately misunderstanding. Maybe it is not you that is totally missing out on the humor at all, it is us that don't get your sense of humor.  So if that is the case you can disregard this. If not, her is a honest attempt to a serious answer. I will not cover the points in ascending order, I hope that is OK.

2. No he did not  agree to, he  asked to get a city razed (so that, just as The_Dude points out, he can relocating his city). 

1. Yes, to enable an alliance mate to raze his city he left the alliance (again - at his own initiative). 

3. Well, as many have pointed out before me, he is not making false claims, he is playing along with the sarcasm that started on PAGE 1 after KillerPoodles statement that this was temporary and that Bart still was under H? protection and after The_Dudes lucky guess of what was going on. After that it was so obvious what was going on (for most of us), hence the opportunity to have some fun with fellow gamer on the forum. 

Clarification: When I say that The_Dude had a lucky guess of what is going on, I'm being sarcastic. Why? Because this way of "moving" cities is (in my view) a well known and widely used practice.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 10:48
No Mr Anderson I am not deliberately misunderstanding your sense of humour. You and those other Harmless? posters are deliberately missing the point :
ie players like Kumomoto, are arrogant and generally contemptous of other players and this tends show in their posts in the forum and in chat. Those players have bred a culture of arrogance and contempt which is endemic in H? (and parts of T?) . 
This, amongst other things,  tends to lead to threads like these where instead of upholding the value of protecting weaker players from tyrants - players from H? devalue it  first by parody and then by lies.  They do this because they mistakenly believe that they are above everyone else.
 
That is one of the reasons why I highlighted the need for regieme change in my earlier post because there are still decent players in H? Instead of submitting to; and defending the arrogance of Kumomoto and his kind - Show some true courage and replace him!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 11:22
Originally posted by Bragdush the Bald Bragdush the Bald wrote:

No Mr Anderson I am not deliberately misunderstanding your sense of humour. You and those other Harmless? posters are deliberately missing the point :

ie players like Kumomoto, are arrogant and generally contemptous of other players and this tends show in their posts in the forum and in chat. Those players have bred a culture of arrogance and contempt which is endemic in H? (and parts of T?) . 

This, amongst other things,  tends to lead to threads like these where instead of upholding the value of protecting weaker players from tyrants - players from H? devalue it  first by parody and then by lies.  They do this because they mistakenly believe that they are above everyone else.
 

That is one of the reasons why I highlighted the need for regieme change in my earlier post because there are still decent players in H? Instead of submitting to; and defending the arrogance of Kumomoto and his kind - Show some true courage and replace him!


BTW In case you did not notice, there are a good number of players in H? that are arrogant like Kumo. So, just getting rid of Kumo will not work...

I agree with all of this.

Can you give me a link to Shrap stating his worries about H??

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 12:14
As I see it H? is constantly blamed of something in this forum, that they did not do or it is just ridiculous. So I understand that it is getting bit boring and hard to take seriously anymore. So how about next time send message to people who are involved and ask before writing to the forum. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 12:39
Okay, I think I found the comment from Shrap here...

http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/what-to-do-with-h_topic1075_page25.html
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 15:51
Brag--
 
I'm not sure what your issue is and how we or I wronged you, but I'd appreciate some concrete evidence of so called arrogant and contemptuous behavior.
 
The only thing I'm contemptuous of is undeservedly hostile attitudes from people who are too thick and myopic to understand that an entire thread is one of sarcasm. Do you really believe that H? is in a contest with Curse to see who is the most evil?
 
If so, I know there are some guys who want to sell you a bridge out there...
 
As to protecting new players, I defy you to find a single alliance who has provided more protection (both as H? and as the provider of protection to T?) for new players in this game. Your accusations are baseless (just like your slight on TD was) and, frankly, the fact that you espouse the beliefs of the most egregious troll in this game, LH, are doing you absolutely no favors.
 
And, btw, I don't lead H?, KP does-- yet another example of you not having your facts straight.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 16:57
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Brag--
 

I'm not sure what your issue is and how we or I wronged you, but I'd appreciate some concrete evidence of so called arrogant and contemptuous behavior.

 

The only thing I'm contemptuous of is undeservedly hostile attitudes from people who are too thick and myopic to understand that an entire thread is one of sarcasm. Do you really believe that H? is in a contest with Curse to see who is the most evil?

 

If so, I know there are some guys who want to sell you a bridge out there...

 

As to protecting new players, I defy you to find a single alliance who has provided more protection (both as H? and as the provider of protection to T?) for new players in this game. Your accusations are baseless (just like your slight on TD was) and, frankly, the fact that you espouse the beliefs of the most egregious troll in this game, LH, are doing you absolutely no favors.

 

And, btw, I don't lead H?, KP does-- yet another example of you not having your facts straight.

 

Kumo


You also have destroyed more towns than any other alliance.

I am pretty sure you love to be EVIL all the time. If I remember right, you do not like competition. I bet you hate the fact Curse is mentioned in the same EVIL breath as H? now.

The truth has been out for awhile now... H? has been EVIL from the get go.

I talked to a fellow gamer about the state of this game... An experienced gamer with valid points and opinions. I talked about the community and the strategy in Illyriad. He told me that this game sucks due to the ZERG warfare due to a player having no way to defend against overwhelming odds. It also sucks due to the superiority complex community that drives players from the game if they do not have the same personality as the top players. Basically, if you are not allowed to join this private party, the shunned players should leave game and have their IP banned due to not being liked by the top players. He said the strategy in the game presents a HUGE balance issue favoring the attacker over the defender. I told him that players need to have a lot of friends due to the game ZERG tactics that the community adopted as the only tactic in the game. He said that was way too boring. He told me that he played a game kinda like this one that had the same type of community forcing players out of the game that did not fit their personality... The game he told me about... ended up dieing due to the community.

The lifeblood of any MMO, is the community. No matter how great a game is, if a community like this one tries to control every aspect of the game (in game and forums alike)and allow only the players that fit in with the top players, the game will be doomed!

H? may help new players join the game... However, if these new players do not have the personality they favor, they will force these players out of the game.

This community is more of a reflection of H?... An uptight community that forces player out if they do not fit the personality they like.

Like I said before, this game needs a lot more MOD Strategos players, instead of control freaks that feel the need to force their personality onto others will.

Basically what H? and the top players with similar personalities want, is a private party server that has only the personalities that fit with theirs.

With all of this said, I like the Illyriad game, I like the potential it has. I would love for this game too fix the balance issues. Once those issues are fixed, I think this game will be a keeper. However, like I said a million times, the community right now is filled with control freaks and I find that to be unfortunate. To be accepted in this community is just as hard as getting the green jacket at The Masters.    

And believe me, I have tried to get that GREEN JACKET!

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"You also have destroyed more towns than any other alliance. '
 
Hmmm.  I would like to put my hat into the ring for this contest.
 
RES razed 19 TMM cities, 5 MKs cities, 2 CrowB cities, a dozen or so unaligned cities, and when I was in MK, I gave the kill order on 4 cities, and in PX, 1 city destroyed on my order.  Oh, and RES has captured 2 cities.
 
Not a bad year's worth of work for a peacenik.  Maybe I am the mostest evilest peacenik to ever wander the world of Illy.  :)


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