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Originally posted by jcx jcx wrote:

IMO - Epidemic thought of TVM, TCOL, DLORDS, H? and NC as peaceful alliances.. lol. LOL


TVM, TCOL DLORDS and H? are peaceful alliances.  As peaceful as Vcrow, Ucrow, Ncrow, VICX, DARK, SOON, SHADE. and so on.  If you suggested alliances like NC, BANE or BSH are not peaceful I would agree. 


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Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:


Originally posted by The Electrocutioner The Electrocutioner wrote:



Really? Who are they?

I'm not saying it's not true, I just don't know of any. I am only personally aware of one player who was sieged back to the newb ring, and that player was the opposite of peaceful.



So basically you've had your head in the sand for all of the war except the last couple of days. Most of the destruction has already taken place and what is left is quickly being mopped up.
I'm not going to bother posting all the players affected, because I don't really have a clue just how bad it is, but i'm sure you can find the answers if you look hard enough.

I think you seem to have lost track of what Illy is about...you do realise that a big part of this game is geared for warfare in one form or another yes?
If you haven't realised this then you are the one who needs to get your head out the sand....wake up and smell the coffee epidemic, and if you don't like the smell or like what you see go and play Farmville.
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Warfare is just one aspect of illy, it is also a social game, a diplomatic game and a farming game.  These aspects are just as large as the warfare.  Illyriad is a blend of styles, a sandbox game which allows players to choose how they wish to play the game.  It's like saying i'm capable of murder so I must be a murderer...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BellusRex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 20:15
I think a lot of people forget the Devs themselves describe Illy as a sandbox military strategy game...there may be other aspects to the game, but they are not the focus the game is premised on.
"War is the father of all things..."
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Illyriad might be a military-oriented strategy game, but the community adopted the position that this was a more peaceful MMO. That isn't artificial, because it's a sandbox, but that position has eroded badly in the present server war. People who have read my other posts know that I believe this kind of conflict was inevitable. If Illyriad changes, so be it. I don't think you can prevent that kind of change when the game mechanics clearly support it, and are intentionally biased in that direction.

I will comment that there are two sets of people that got wiped out. People who refused to surrender were the first. However, I watch the siege list daily, and it was quite obvious that there were also accounts that got kicked from their alliances due to inactivity (or whatever reason), and the sieges continued even though the account wasn't fighting back. I consider that unsportsmanlike, because that's razing the account of an inactive or infrequently active player, who is not actively fighting in the war.

They might have all been permasat accounts, but I thought it was poor form. Absent players can't even surrender, so unless they had sitters, the accounts were doomed.
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Those against sitting will say that's a good thing, the inactive accounts well they were doomed anyway once the number of days arrive for the inactivity clause. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Deranzin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 22:21
Originally posted by Mr Damage Mr Damage wrote:

Those against sitting will say that's a good thing, the inactive accounts well they were doomed anyway once the number of days arrive for the inactivity clause. 


Which brings the question that always pops in my mind while reading Twilights in GC ... how on earth can someone distinguish a perma-sat account for someone that went a trip, has a RL problem, had a kid or is for some time away from the game for whatever other reason .?.

Do not get this wrong, this is not an accusation ... if a person announces that he is not coming back or that his account is up for grabs, then ok, but on any other case I just cannot see how such a decision is being made so easily and I'd really like to know it ...



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I am not sure the accounts that left alliances were not fighting back.  I know my alliance continued to siege a couple of people who said they were going to make peace, left their alliances and then did continue to fight.  We continued to fight against them until they made peace or until they did not have any more available targets in the neighborhood.  It might therefore appear that the account had been kicked from the alliance for inactivity and continued to be sieged, but that was not the case in at least three instances I can think of.
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I agree with Brandmeister...the sad thing is most of these players who are affected arent the perpetrators of this war but victims.  A hand full of players are responsible for this war yet the whole of the server pays the consequences.  Who are those players? well it depends on which sides spin you believe, but hath is as much of a saint as I am, and i'm a fracking atheist.


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Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:


I think you seem to have lost track of what Illy is about...you do realise that a big part of this game is geared for warfare in one form or another yes?
If you haven't realised this then you are the one who needs to get your head out the sand....wake up and smell the coffee epidemic, and if you don't like the smell or like what you see go and play Farmville.


This is the farmville of all war based strategy games, you should stop drinking the coffee...
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