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Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:

Originally posted by The Electrocutioner The Electrocutioner wrote:



Really? Who are they?

I'm not saying it's not true, I just don't know of any. I am only personally aware of one player who was sieged back to the newb ring, and that player was the opposite of peaceful.



So basically you've had your head in the sand for all of the war except the last couple of days. Most of the destruction has already taken place and what is left is quickly being mopped up.
I'm not going to bother posting all the players affected, because I don't really have a clue just how bad it is, but i'm sure you can find the answers if you look hard enough.

I simply asked a question, and you respond with an accusation. You're accusing ME of having MY head in the sand, when you don't know either?

I think you are making this up. You cannot name a single player. You said yourself you don't have a clue... you're right about that.
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No results for: The Electrocutioner

I simply don't care about spinsters or those who hide behind fake accounts.


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I am ELECTROK from Night Crusaders. I was The Electrocutioner for a year or so before changing my in-game name. My apologies, I should not take it for granted that everyone would know that. 

You can go back to making unfounded assertions that you can't back up now.
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that's a pretty compelling response.....
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Originally posted by The Electrocutioner The Electrocutioner wrote:

I am ELECTROK from Night Crusaders. I was The Electrocutioner for a year or so before changing my in-game name. My apologies, I should not take it for granted that everyone would know that. 

You can go back to making unfounded assertions that you can't back up now.



Looks at a devastated TVM, looks at a devasted Tcol, looks at a devasted Dlords, looks at a devastated H?, looks at a devastated NC...

I don't like what I see, you might not care, but I do.

A player going from 150K+ to 15k is 'siged from the game' in my book.

Anybody can still go to the above alliances members list and see for themselves, except of course those who have already abandoned.
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I'm a player who surrendered from the war, I'm a ex-TVM member. Surrendering is'nt as bad as people make out, I'm still here and I'm thriving. Leading up to and during the war it was always the other side the "evil side" how wrong was I.

After my surrender I was offered friendship and assistance from the "other side" which is more than can be said for my allies. TVM was given no assistance no backup, were we left out to dry. In my opinion we were left to perish so other alliance's could bide their time and stockpile for the last battle which were now witnessing.

It's sadden's me, we had a vision in TVM we belonged to Ursor we had so much more ahead of us. I look at the siege page daily in despair, TVM cities are still being wiped out and it does'nt have to be this way. Alot of them cities belong to player's who are not here to decide their fate. Bonfyr has made the decision to take TVM down that path, that won't change but at least let the player's go who are'nt here to make that decision Bonfyr.
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Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:

 
Looks at a devastated TVM, looks at a devasted Tcol, looks at a devasted Dlords, looks at a devastated H?, looks at a devastated NC...

I agree that is all unfortunate, and there is great in-game devastation to all of these alliances.

But what you said was, " Lots of peaceful players have been sieged from the game". 

Who was sieged from the game? And were they peaceful, or fighting?

I think those are fair questions to a very serious assertion, and they remain unanswered. Who are they?
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Originally posted by The Electrocutioner The Electrocutioner wrote:

Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:

 
Looks at a devastated TVM, looks at a devasted Tcol, looks at a devasted Dlords, looks at a devastated H?, looks at a devastated NC...

I agree that is all unfortunate, and there is great in-game devastation to all of these alliances.

But what you said was, " Lots of peaceful players have been sieged from the game". 

Who was sieged from the game? And were they peaceful, or fighting?

I think those are fair questions to a very serious assertion, and they remain unanswered. Who are they?


IMO - Epidemic thought of TVM, TCOL, DLORDS, H? and NC as peaceful alliances.. lol. LOL
Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day.

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Originally posted by Mc Kenna Mc Kenna wrote:

I'm a player who surrendered from the war, I'm a ex-TVM member. Surrendering is'nt as bad as people make out, I'm still here and I'm thriving. Leading up to and during the war it was always the other side the "evil side" how wrong was I.


I would have made a RL analogy that you wouldn't have been at all good for your argument, but Luna would go bananas if I did, so I'll leave that part alone. Tongue

Originally posted by Mc Kenna Mc Kenna wrote:


After my surrender I was offered friendship and assistance from the "other side" which is more than can be said for my allies. TVM was given no assistance no backup, were we left out to dry. In my opinion we were left to perish so other alliance's could bide their time and stockpile for the last battle which were now witnessing.


I've heard that being said in GC about my case as well and was taunted that my alliance supposedly "abandoned" me (which is far from true, unless you guys believe that I can dodge armies while sleeping LOL), but any person that has ever launched an army cross-country knows how blatantly false that is.

Example. Let us suppose that I want to help you break a siege :

Travel Speed 18 sq per hr Time to Dest 3d 7m 25s

THREE DAYS !!! The siege would have ended well before that time and if you consider the return trip I would have been without my armies for SIX days during which I'd unable to help other allies near me whom I actually had a chance to be in time to help them. Shocked

So, that part of the argument is out.

Of course, there were players with cities much nearer than myself, BUT you forget the fact that those where ALSO being attacked and where in fact destroyed or forced to move out of that area

One look at the current strategic map proves my point even to someone who has not been following the war.

So, it is not as if your allies where sipping tea and frolicking in a party while you were being attacked ... they were being attacked AS WELL, so before sprouting allegations be so kind and take into account some facts please. Wink

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This response is also directed to the people that tried to taunt me in GC with the same allegations.  Smile



Just like a "before and after" ad ! ahahahaah :p
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Originally posted by Mc Kenna Mc Kenna wrote:

I'm a player who surrendered from the war, I'm a ex-TVM member. Surrendering is'nt as bad as people make out, I'm still here and I'm thriving. Leading up to and during the war it was always the other side the "evil side" how wrong was I.


It's not bad if you can accept the fact that you surrendered. For you that was acceptable. For those of us left in TVM, it isnt.

Originally posted by Mc Kenna Mc Kenna wrote:


After my surrender I was offered friendship and assistance from the "other side" which is more than can be said for my allies. TVM was given no assistance no backup, were we left out to dry. In my opinion we were left to perish so other alliance's could bide their time and stockpile for the last battle which were now witnessing.


To be clear, that entire paragraph is your opinion. TVM was offered assistance, still is and have been backed up on many occasions. Just because that backup was unsuccessful (which wasnt always the case but in the long term didnt stop the "other side" from hitting us, all of us) doesn't discount it. It was there. You are just flat out wrong.

Originally posted by Mc Kenna Mc Kenna wrote:


It's sadden's me, we had a vision in TVM we belonged to Ursor

Not according to EE, nCrow, vCrow and Bane, among others.

Originally posted by Mc Kenna Mc Kenna wrote:


we had so much more ahead of us. I look at the siege page daily in despair, TVM cities are still being wiped out and it does'nt have to be this way. Alot of them cities belong to player's who are not here to decide their fate. Bonfyr has made the decision to take TVM down that path, that won't change but at least let the player's go who are'nt here to make that decision Bonfyr.


Huh? We should boot players who aren't here so they won't be sieged? What Illy are you playing?
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