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DeliciousJosh 
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 Quote Reply  Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 16:43 |
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Well I hope other players than KP will post on H's behalf. So far he is not doing a very good job, especially with the taunting:
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2) It might be more accurate to refer to yourselves as the "Not quite so Grand as it used to be" alliance."
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| DeliciousJosh
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 17:22 |
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I think both sides have misunderstood or mistaken each other many times in the past. That won't change that this offer cannot be misunderstood. It won't change that many players have left the game due to the war either. Many of the reasons for stubbornness (on both sides) is because of 'wrongdoings' 'name-calling' 'military actions' and many other things. I can understand it's hard to let go of something that you hold precious. The thing is, sooner or later things will change. You just have to decide for yourself; where am I going to be in this change? |
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| Starry
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 17:54 |
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Jumping into a war to vulture accounts hardly merits the description of "Good", Rill, sieging entire accounts out of a game merits another name; not keeping the agreements you made with other alliances defies description.
Remember, H tried to avoid this war, we were given written assurances we not going to be attacked, why in the world would we accept your leadership's word now? Your credibility is zero, your duplicity is a matter of fact, your hypocrisy is well known.
Requesting confirmation that Ditto is in fact talking to us is not unreasonable, in fact, given the GA or
*** EDIT: Do not refer to them as "the Axis of Evil" - Rikoo *** actions, it's pretty much required at this point. You can post all you want but WE need confirmation we aren't talking to someone else. :) As for requiring that we talk on our forum, there just is no pleasing you; if we talk in public, we are criticized; if we request private talks, the same....make up your mind....oh wait, you already have.
Have a good day.
Edited by GM Rikoo - 28 Jun 2014 at 20:00 |
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| Shadar Logoth
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 18:13 |
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I am biased.
After seeing H? manipulate stuff a millionth time I am not the person to ask what is fair anymore.
However, I can state facts.
In the great Trove war all Consone members had the option of accepting the surrender terms, or to be continued to be sieged untill they did.
There was nothing subtle about that.
(I was going to stick to facts, but to me, the fact that consone members/leaders in the end decided to agree with the surrender terms showed that they cared for their memembers. Even if they knew that H? had provoced this war. )
Ok ... back to facts...
In the great Trove war the people defeated chose to surrender to prevent further harm for their members.
H? is given a similar option.
Debate all you like, and wish that other people would see the right of your side, sometimes you just need to swallow your pride and get on with life.
Really... there is no debating the inevitable. And sure, if it is your choice to let your account die in this game, then that is ok to. But don't blame others then.
Do I want to see H? whiped out? No.
Do I mind them getting kicked in the behind? Nope.
A firm kick in the behind has served a lot of people well over the ages. And apparently this time it's just H?'s time.
There is nothing simpler about this then what is stated above. The only thing that now could go wrong for the grand alliance is if they would change the terms ones H? accepted them. That would be just wrong.
I pride myself in knowing some of these people, if only for a fraction of what they are worth. Maybe some made mistakes at times to, but then, so did H? ... fact remains...
You deal with the cards given to you. Or else, you just agree to be dealt with.
I wish all players involved the best.
That is one thing which is unbiased. And it is a fact.
Shadar Logoth
Ps. Even if Ditto were not playing anymore, the facts remain the same. Cry havoc if the enemy changes the terms that are offered to you. But you first have to prove them wrong.
Who leads an alliance is, and always has been, irrelevant, unless it is a dictatorship.If the new leader sticks to his/their word their agreement is still just as solid. And one thing is sure, at the moment there is no "one" dictator leading a certain side.
edited for spelling errors... dont kill me if u see more ... i am only 'uman
Edited by Shadar Logoth - 28 Jun 2014 at 18:15 |
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More Orc, less talking!
All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules. |
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| Sheza
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 18:35 |
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Holding anger is a poison...It eats you from inside...We think that by hating someone we hurt them...But hatred is a curved blade...and the harm we do to others...we also do to ourselves.”
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| Nokigon
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 18:46 |
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^^And that is the point where you step away from the computer.
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| KillerPoodle
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 19:36 |
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You say this but Hath's very first sentence to me when he reached out was a taunt about Kumo so I'll expect you guys to do the same for Hath. |
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill |
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| Shadar Logoth
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 19:49 |
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Anyone responding after my response...
I respect your opinion, I truelly do, even if you do not feel it.
But the bottom line is this. One side gave the other side a way out, just as it has been done in the olden days. You either accept it, even if you feel you have been wronged, or you don't. The outcome is your responsibility.
And on a personal note, which I know it don't matter one single bit. The terms I read don't seem all that harsh at all. I seen many of my friends having had to suffer harsher terms.
Don't compare, ... think...
If you want to keep on existing within the game, even the mighty might have to take a tumble at certain times. It doesn't make you less, but it certainly also doesn't make your opponents wrong.
Taunting eachother... I could fill a book with examples of that. Each one nastier than the other. I did at some time to. Dont make me right. But at this moment, I am not wrong either.
Good luck to you all.
Shad
edited for: insert swear word, i had hoped to make it without a spelling error this time, but i didn't mia culpa...
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More Orc, less talking!
All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules. |
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| KillerPoodle
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 19:52 |
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Yup.
Pot and Kettle.
Not true - go back and re-read the other million threads on this or see your contradictory statement below.
I'm doing the same - our members just have more balls than yours.
Now this is true - compare to your statement above and recognize the difference. Also, to repeat, because it was right for your members does not make it right for ours.
You sound like Marcellus Wallace - you remember how that turned out, right?
Oh how short memories are. The exact opposite argument was used as one of the major justifications for this entire war and held up as a prime example of how evil NC were - that is some first class hypocrisy you're displaying here.
How would you classify the last 9 months - a kiss on the cheek?
Already happened for other alliances who accepted the not-so-grand alliances terms earlier in the war - and you wonder why there's not trust here. |
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill |
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| Shadar Logoth
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 19:54 |
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Wow, truelly sad state you must be in KP to come up with a retort like this.
Good luck.
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More Orc, less talking!
All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules. |
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