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Ok, so I'm going to ask the obvious question.

If all Gaia wanted was to be near the hub, why not go here:  http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/-705/664   It's closer to the hub, same res plots as where she went, better dolman near by, and not in someone's 10 so wouldn't have cost her SOV 5.  What am I missing?  Hell, why not just exodus there once Bimoda complained instead of digging in her heels?   We've all done it - I moved a freshly started city as a new player when I was 9.6 away, because I didn't know any better!  Yes, it took freaking forever to be ready to exodus, but in this case Gaia won't even lose anything to the move since she just did it.


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Hi Everyone

Apparently you did not read our list of Terms before you posted it here in the forums. We showed you the respect of sending them to you before we posted them here. Posting our terms to you, appears to be some sort of mocking of us and saying no to them. I believe our terms to you were fair, by Illy standards, and totally respectful to your alliance. As has been pointed out before, this is not really about the 10 square rule. That is a rule that we adhere to as an alliance. All we asked was that you communicate with us. That is all that we expected from Myll.  We are not little girls and we are not stomping our feet. We  did not undertake this endeavor lightly, we discussed it amongst ourselves and were told by Myll and others that you would continue to disregard our policies. The decision is your not ours as to whether to accept our terms to end this.

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Well at least we now know that Gaia can speak.

You say that I did not ask nicely? Here is my IGM to you.

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  1. Public posting of private messages between fellow players or players and Illyriad staff is prohibited. This includes discussions of warnings and suspensions of both game and forum accounts.
Do not post any more IGMs. The next person who does can be banned from the forums.


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Did they not offer Myll's cities to [WAVE] members?   Did they not offer to leave "violating" cities in place and help them grow?  Did they not offer a way to avoid future conflicts and even need to Sov?  Seems like they made it easy for the new members and alliance to grow, without impeding on their own growth potentials.   With out a NAP, neither side can bring new cities in without the expense and time of Sov,  Seems logical to this orc.  
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Originally posted by Cancarix Cancarix wrote:

I understand you Hora, Mussolini always agree Hitler. You are the same.

I find it sad when everybody in this forum so far regardless of whether they agree or not has managed to express their opinions in a civilised manner, that you have to resort to insulting somebody you disagree with. 

One of the things I really like about the Illy community is the way that people tend to treat others with respect. If this is something you have problems with I hope you do lose your interest in playing or at least participating in forums and move on.
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I honestly think it is coming down to a case of "I came from LoU and I want it my way or else". 

Although I'm loath to admit it, I cam from LoU also.  I love this game and the fact that there are game rules and player devises "rules".    I was fortunate enough to find my way into a group that is very helpful to new players and respectful of others.  I've come to expect that from other groups out there and happily I've found it even from alliances that many have conflicts with.  


Originally posted by Aquennomi Aquennomi wrote:

Did they not offer Myll's cities to [WAVE] members?   Did they not offer to leave "violating" cities in place and help them grow?  Did they not offer a way to avoid future conflicts and even need to Sov?  Seems like they made it easy for the new members and alliance to grow, without impeding on their own growth potentials.   With out a NAP, neither side can bring new cities in without the expense and time of Sov,  Seems logical to this orc.  
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Originally posted by Aquennomi Aquennomi wrote:

Did they not offer Myll's cities to [WAVE] members?   Did they not offer to leave "violating" cities in place and help them grow?  Did they not offer a way to avoid future conflicts and even need to Sov?  Seems like they made it easy for the new members and alliance to grow, without impeding on their own growth potentials.   With out a NAP, neither side can bring new cities in without the expense and time of Sov,  Seems logical to this orc.  

In my opinion all those were good.  However, its the main requirement that we would not like in that it involves the 10 square "rule".  Its not our rule so why would we agree to that?  My opinion only I'm not a leader.
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Originally posted by nighthawk7 nighthawk7 wrote:



In my opinion all those were good.  However, its the main requirement that we would not like in that it involves the 10 square "rule".  Its not our rule so why would we agree to that?  My opinion only I'm not a leader.




So you would rather cause conflict, than a simple IGM to "ask for permission" that 99 times out of 100 will be given freely,  and the other time a better for you suggestion will be made?   Seems self destructive to me.


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@Rikoo  My apologies, I had no idea that was against the rules.

Originally posted by Bimoda Bimoda wrote:

Well at least we now know that Gaia can speak.

You say that I did not ask nicely? Here is my IGM to you.

EDIT: (from the rules section)

  1. Public posting of private messages between fellow players or players and Illyriad staff is prohibited. This includes discussions of warnings and suspensions of both game and forum accounts.
Do not post any more IGMs. The next person who does can be banned from the forums.


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I personally will and have found spaces away from cities... I want it for my own growth.  I think her city was tactical in that it was near the hub and based on spots?  I don't know all the true benefits of the tiles and benefits of them other than large food spots for population.  We also want to be in the wastes....

Infact I harvest regularly inside the "5 tile rule" or whatever you call it.  I did have someone destroy my caravans and send spies to my city... warning received and I stopped around that person.. asked another for permission as well.  

I would personally do it more of a courtesy but if its a spot I really wanted then I'd still go there.  If we were a larger alliance and able to defend ourselves this wouldn't be an issue.
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