31JUL12 - MAJOR RELEASE (Crafting)

Silverlake wrote: LordOfTheSwamp wrote:   What did you want, a single "Bow of Instant Elven Supremacy"? ;-) Pithy much... must all your comments directed at H members be pithy, condescending, and dismissive?  It really is getting old.

I read it as a orc about elves or a man in a swamp talking about a man in a jungle.

I know jungle is massive, but not much about the swamp

LordOfTheSwamp wrote: JimJams wrote: Why you hate elves ? Especially elves in jungle like me ? Bow have weird bonuses and there is NOTHING comparable with Silversteel weapons. NOTHING. So my archer commanders will get at most 6% attack bonus while most of the others can use a 30% bonus weapon ?? Elven Trueshots can get, if I have read this right, a +35% bonus to their attack, which becomes +70% in small units? Composite Bow = +15% attack Vanguard's Armour (leather version) = +20% attack The infantry horse has no benefit                                                      Total = 35% Elite units doubles this if used in small groups                                                      Small unit total = 70% And, that particular combination only requires 2 crafting buildings to be researched and built - none of these mixed-buildings-required-research-ladder weapons there. On reflection, I don't even think that that's the *best* loadout for your Trueshots - I think there are better options, depending on your situation. You're right, tho, it does look like in the jungle Elves don't buff quite so well, nor so easily. You'll probably be looking at +32% to attack (or +64% in small groups), and for that you'll need to plan your targets more carefully. You can bemoan that while you enjoy all the extra food squares that jungle biome seems to have, or some of the huge concentrations of Herbs I've noticed down there. What did you want, a single "Bow of Instant Elven Supremacy"? ;-)

Edited by JimJams - 01 Aug 2012 at 15:46

Rohk wrote: Since the Orc Death Dealer needs both spears and bows to build can we equip them with both a spear and a bow or do we have to pick one or is it set that they can equip only one type?

I must say that i have not checked in details all the numbers but could it be that devs actualy predicted situations of deff units (bows) being stacked in def formations with huge amount of divisions/Elite units bonuses?Good def player know how to form strong deff formations and if both bows and for exmpl swords get same bonuses then stacked armies would be imposible to defeat.So lets say that attacking army formed of 5 divisions of infantry have larger bonus from weapons then defending archer army.BUt it is easy to imagine that defending army would be made from more then 5 divisions, thus having greater battle bonuses?...Or maybe this is one of those situations where it is best to read first and then comment.

Sloter wrote: I must say that i have not checked in details all the numbers but could it be that devs actualy predicted situations of deff units (bows) being stacked in def formations with huge amount of divisions/Elite units bonuses?Good def player know how to form strong deff formations and if both bows and for exmpl swords get same bonuses then stacked armies would be imposible to defeat.So lets say that attacking army formed of 5 divisions of infantry have larger bonus from weapons then defending archer army.BUt it is easy to imagine that defending army would be made from more then 5 divisions, thus having greater battle bonuses?...Or maybe this is one of those situations where it is best to read first and then comment.