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In my experience and in the documentation, there is a 100% drop in cities for attackers as well as defenders.  Draught horses are just the most obvious example of this.
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"Factions" are system-generated NPCs that currently have two functions.

1)  Players can place buy and sell orders at faction trade hubs.  Some items such as crafted items and advanced harvestables can only be traded at faction hubs and not by city-to-city marketplace trade.  (Although these items can be traded informally without going through the marketplace.)

2)  Factions generate small armies that set up camps various places on the map.  These armies can be killed by players.

There are other things that factions theoretically will do in the future; however these features have been promised for several years, so no one is holding their breath as to when these features might be rolled out or what they will look like when they do.  Some items that have been discussed are faction troops attacking player cities or player armies and factions generating NPC cities on the map that can be attacked, thieved and/or captured.

We will believe that when we see it.
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Yet another newbie question...One answer to ,"Who is winning?" was "Anyone who is improving their ranking is winning". That led to a look at the rankings and I found that players with fewer people in their first city than I; had twice my score in rankings...Oh, yeah...the questions...How are the ranking scores calculated? Do different races have advantages in certain areas that could improve their ranking score? Does your time spent on the server affect the ranking score? Does anybody really know what time it is?(just kidding) Some help on the ranking questions?.. Confused Dragonwort
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Originally posted by Dragonwort Dragonwort wrote:

Another noob question : Do I understand correctly...the research military outfitter allows interchangeability of weapons (bows, spears, swords) for your militia troops. AND if this is so do the troops need more research in order to use the different weapons? In some cases (hunting), ranged weapons would be preferable to swords for instance. Is that the way this works? Confused Dragonwort


No you do not. Once you have researched Military Outfitter you can equip troops with any Weapon/Armour/Horse but armour or weapon must relate to the soldier type.
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Just about every action in game affects your ranking.  If you look at the "rankings" tab under a player's profile, you can see the breakdown of their ranking score.  

(Also, Daufer, your Dwarfness is showing.  You excuse for a cavalry unit may have a 3500 max, but a maxed heroism knight commander gets 3965 attack points :P )
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What is the proper etiquette re. Bumping? As a newbie if I'm bumped by a much larger player do I bump back? And then what? He rebumps me AND stations troops? Or what? Confused Dragonwort

AND is this considered "bullying" or does that only apply to aggression against your cities?


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So here it is - my first forum post  Wink
Here's my noob question - are guilds worth building?

I looked around and there are no advanced minerals or herbs on the map. I guess I can build a skinner's guild or a trader's guild, but it seems like there aren't many advanced minerals/herbs. If that is so, then am I hampered by lack of advanced resources?
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Originally posted by Dragonwort Dragonwort wrote:

What is the proper etiquette re. Bumping? As a newbie if I'm bumped by a much larger player do I bump back? And then what? He rebumps me AND stations troops? Or what?Confused Dragonwort

AND is this considered "bullying" or does that only apply to aggression against your cities?

Hi Dragonwort, 

Most bumping actually happens unintentionally but "bumping back" might be interpreted as an hostile action so I advise you not to do it.

If someone bumps you intentionally they are actually doing you a courtesy. They probably want you to acknowledge that the resource you are harvesting belongs to them but are polite enough not to destroy your gathering units with an army.

Some people claim ownership on any resource within 5 or 10 squares of their cities (which is bull, imho). Others are only upset if you harvest on their sovereign squares (not sure they have a point). Most will consider harvesting hides/animal parts from their NPC hunting as poaching (I could agree with that).  So being intentionally bumped for harvesting something claimed by another player is not usually considered bullying.

My personal take on harvesting rights is that resources belong to whoever can be bothered to harvest them so, if you find stuff lying around unattended, just go for it. If you get bumped, assume it was done in good faith and just move somewhere else. There's plenty of resources for everyone in Illyria.

Just be warned that, while most big players will simply ignore newbies like you (and me), others can be aggressively protective of what they perceive as private property and you may be attacked without warning (or maybe they consider the attack itself as a warning? Some people are just not good with words).

Anyway, even if you are attacked by a stronger player (as it happened to me), don't panic. If you are in an alliance, contact them and  they will probably find a way to straighten out the matter for you. If not,  just build up your defences as best as you can then sit tight and wait for his/her rage to simmer down.


PS: look at me dishing out good advice to newbies as if I wasn't one myself ;-)
Anyway I have been a dedicated harvester since I started playing Illy so I thought I could share my experiences on this matter


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This is a very touchy subject because I don't want to offend the very generous people who send resources to the newbies in Illyriad. However, I am a bit confused...

Every so often someone will come to global chat and ask if any new players need resources. there are usually a number of responses and sometimes the person giving resources will ask how many the newbie can hold. The newbie answers and this is the confusing part....very often the generous resource supplier will send much more than the amount requested and include a message to "upgrade your storage".

Is there a way to do that? Something similar happened to me(although storage amounts were not discussed) and I found 10 K of each resource inbound when I could only hold around 7500. Thinking there might be some lag, I waited until the very second that the resources arrived and upgraded my storage, hoping to upgrade with the overstock and then have the remainder to work with. I failed miserably and succeeded in using more than 1/2 of the 7500 I actually could store. My storage was upgraded but at the time I would rather have used the incoming to upgrade resource production and then upgrade storage with the increases resources I produced.

I certainly don't mean to look a gift horse...etc. BUT if the extra resources are lost to cyberspace; is the inclusion of extra resources a way to emphasize your need to upgrade storage? OR is there a way to make this work and I just don't know it yet?  thanks ConfusedDragonwort
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Originally posted by Dragonwort Dragonwort wrote:

Every so often someone will come to global chat and ask if any new players need resources. there are usually a number of responses and sometimes the person giving resources will ask how many the newbie can hold. The newbie answers and this is the confusing part....very often the generous resource supplier will send much more than the amount requested and include a message to "upgrade your storage".
this is typically pretty poor advice. i'm not sure if the givers intend for it to be taken seriously or as encouragement/teasing/celebration.

there is no way to upgrade your storage beyond doing just that...building additional levels of storehouse (or warehouse). it does not happen instantly, as you know. any resources that cannot be stored on arrival are lost; levels of storehouse in process do not store resources. the player sending the resources means for you to use the time between sending and arrival to add additional levels of storehouse, but if they are not complete on arrival, they will not help you.

imo, newbs are not served by upgrading storage for the purpose of storing a one-time gift, or even serial ones. your benefactor is generous and intends to assist you in the game; thank him/her, and then build what you intended when you asked. there is far too much wood/clay/iron/stone being produced in the game to allow the excess to distort your building plans.
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